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Advice From Your Advocates
Advice From Your Advocates
Unlocking Hidden Government Benefits with Matthew Lesko
What if you could unlock a treasure trove of government benefits with the wisdom of a legendary icon? Matthew Lesko, the man who danced into our hearts with his question mark suits, joins us to share his enduring passion for helping individuals access financial support. At 81, he remains dedicated to shedding light on the "giving society" — a world of government and non-profit resources that often goes unnoticed.
In this engaging conversation, Attorney Bob Mannor interviews Matthew Lesko, a well-known figure in the realm of government benefits and financial resources. They discuss the importance of understanding the 'giving society' as opposed to capitalism, emphasizing how many resources are available to help individuals in need. Lesko shares insights on accessing government benefits, the significance of community support, and the lessons learned from both success and failure. The conversation concludes with practical tips for listeners on how to navigate available resources effectively.
Episode Takeaways
- The 'giving society' comprises 40% of our economy, providing resources to those in need.
- Many people are unaware of the financial assistance available to them.
- Community support is crucial for personal and professional growth.
- Success can be a handicap; learning from failure is essential.
- Accessing resources often requires asking the right questions to the right people.
- There are thousands of nonprofit organizations ready to help individuals with various needs.
About Matthew Lesko:
Matthew Lesko, the“Free Money Guy”, is an author and infomercial personality best known for his flamboyant question-mark suits and promotion of government grants. A former naval officer and Fortune 500 consultant, he gained fame in the 1990s and 2000s through bestselling books and TV infomercials on accessing free government resources. With over 70 published works, including Getting Yours and Free Money to Quit Your Job, Lesko remains a passionate advocate for public access to financial aid. Learn more at Leskohelp.com
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Welcome back to Advice from your Advocates. I am really excited to introduce you to our guest today, matthew Lesko. If you are at least 30 years old probably even 25 years old you'll remember Matthew Lesko as one of the premier people, if you ever had insomnia, stayed up late at night to watch these infomercials. There was a lot of bad guys out there doing infomercials and I feel like Matthew Lesko was a good guy, always felt that. I bought his book back in the 90s and you'll see today when you listen to this podcast, you'll see he really is a good guy, has committed his life to helping average folks and I think you'll really like it, so enjoy folks and I think you'll really like it.
Speaker 2:So enjoy You're listening to Advice from your Advocates a show where we provide elder law advice to professionals who work with the elderly and their families.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to Advice from your Advocates. I'm Bob Manor, I'm a certified elder law attorney in Michigan and I am really excited about the podcast today, and I think you're going to be excited too. We got Matthew Lesko. Hi, matthew, how are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm fine, still alive, still above the ground.
Speaker 1:A lot of you guys aren't listening and you might recognize the voice If you saw the picture. If you're watching on YouTube, you would know who Matthew Lesko is. If you're at least 25 years old, you will know who Matthew Lesko is. He is famous. He is one of my favorite infomercial people. I bought his book. You're the one. Yeah, I'm a big fan, so tell us a little bit about yourself, matthew. I'm just so excited to have you on the podcast. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm old as hell, but I can't believe it. You know, 81. I'm having the wow, yeah, best time my life. If I knew 81 was going to be this much fun, I would have got here early. What the hell I was waiting so long to get here for it? Yeah, I mean, it's just wonderful. My heart is open. More Business is easier for some reason. Everything you know and all that stuff you used to worry about when you're younger I don't have to worry about that. Wendy and I are probably more in love than we've ever been in our 40-some years or whatever. Very cool.
Speaker 3:I don't know, and I think it's all about giving. Yeah, it's just how I mean right now. It's how much can I give before I die? Yeah, that's my mission.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about this for our listeners. So, if you recognize that name and trying to place it, or if you're watching and you see the image of the jacket with all the question marks on it, so if you remember, he's the guy that tells us how to qualify and get government benefits Right. Which is in line with what we do, right so? I help people get government benefits.
Speaker 1:That's what we do so. I help people get government benefits. That's what we do, and obviously we do a lot more than that. But we help people get veterans benefits, we help people get Medicare and Medicaid benefits, and so I'm really excited to have Matthew Lesko. I've always been a fan for the last 30 years and so I'm just excited to have you on here and I wanted to remind people of you know who you are. If you remember from a few years ago, you'd see those commercials with Matthew walking around with the outrageous suits on that have all the question marks over it. Right, that's right. Still do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah exactly, I know, you know, I bought your book. What are we doing now?
Speaker 3:Well, the same thing. I mean I guess I've been a failure in my life because I've been sick of this shit for 40, 50 years now and people still don't realize it. And actually I'm getting a little better, maybe in my show and tell this is what our country is, our gross domestic product, so that's how much money every year. And this yellow part is what's involved in capitalism. Yeah, what we all know. We all know how to go Google and how to buy stuff that we need and things like that.
Speaker 3:What we don't know how to use is what I call our giving society. So this is the capitalist society. This is the capitalist society. This is the giving society. So that's 40 percent of everything in our society is people that are giving you things, and this is government. Does that. Non-profit organizations and people don't know how to access that because they're not allowed to advertise. The giving society Society has no advertising money. The Capitalist Society 90% of their money goes to advertising. So maybe the Giving Society is in Google, but you'll never find it and that's a pity.
Speaker 3:And now, with half of our country, I feel can't afford a $500 bill that are living. The middle class are getting squeezed here and they're getting less and less of the pie. So you have to start learning how to use this, at least in my mind. But I'm biased, so trust me anybody selling you something I advertise on Google. So you can't trust me either.
Speaker 3:And it's a pity, because see what frustrates me is and when I started this business it was really helping fortune 500 clients get all this and I'm from Wilkes-Barre, pennsylvania, a little coal mining town. I didn't know anything about this stuff. So, like you as a lawyer, probably you know you didn't get in the laws. You didn't know about this stuff. Yeah, it's pretty complicated stuff and and God. But but it surprised me so much and these millionaires were coming to me and finding how to get money and help to do things in life and I'd show them the programs and whatever. And after a while of doing that, about five years, and that was the first successful business. So I got an MBA in computers and a computer company had failed. Oh no.
Speaker 3:Failed business. So I even I got an mba in computers and a computer company that failed, failed, uh. But now and then I thought, god, I'm helping millionaires become billionaires with free money. And I think of people in wilkes-barre that don't know anything about this. Yeah, and I thought growing up in wilkes-barre I thought government was the dmv and the post office, right, and that was it and the post office, right, and that was it.
Speaker 3:And the tools and how big this is, and the wealth that have, and the programs that millionaires could become billionaires. So why don't people struggling know about this stuff? And so that's my mission now is to teach them how to do it where it is.
Speaker 3:And I think it's the but most important about that it's where it's not. We all have preconceived notions like we, about lawyers or anything, and it's wrong because we got a little piece of information. So we think that's the world and that's not. Are you online? Can you go online? I could show you something, or not?
Speaker 3:Yeah, probably not yeah, okay, well, there's a. If you went to, or your assistant off camera if she went to, findhelporg, findhelporg, okay, findhelporg, and put in your zip code. Okay, have you put in your zip code. You put in my zip code. I'm in washington DC, so that's not typical, but there will be 3,000 to 4,000 nonprofit organizations that help you with any kind of living expenses. That's fantastic. Thousands.
Speaker 1:And you probably— Mindhuntorg. That's great.
Speaker 3:So yeah.
Speaker 1:So Savannah, our producer, just pulled that up. And yeah, currently in our zip code it's 2,281 programs that can help you.
Speaker 3:And see 2,200, and not just one Right 2,000 programs. People want to give you money. Yeah, See everybody there wants to get your money.
Speaker 1:So, matt, do you want's talk a little bit about this?
Speaker 1:Because you and I both face a little bit of criticism sometimes that we're exploiting government resources, and the reality is exactly what we've just said I love how you presented it is that the folks that have money are already doing it.
Speaker 1:Now I'll use this analogy a lot for what we do. I'll use the analogy of taxes and saying you know, we all know that there's people with a lot of money that use and I don't want to say manipulate, but they use the tax code and all the rules appropriately and legally to make sure that they pay less taxes. And I use that analogy because I represent regular folks. Right, I represent regular folks, not the billionaires, and so my point on it is when I have regular folks that question and say is this legal, should we be doing this? My answer is the billionaires have been doing it for generations, and so what we're doing is we're trying to apply the laws appropriately to the regular folks so that they can get some advantages to this the billionaires have already been taking advantage of for years, because that's how the law has been, unless we're going to put all the accountants in jail.
Speaker 3:I don't know Right Exactly.
Speaker 1:It's funny. So this is really you know. I probably shouldn't get into this, but when I first got into, when I was first a lawyer in the 90s, there was a law that was. They called it the put. Uh, they put the law was and we, we joked about it because it was put granny in jail, grandma in jail a lot.
Speaker 1:they said, well, that's not right, we can't put grandma in jail because they were trying to access you know, appropriately access government resources. And then it was the law was put grandma's lawyer in jail. That lasted about two months before the government realized that's just ridiculous. You know the lawyers giving advice is a. First Amendment right to give advice to people to how to access government resources, but there was literally a law in the mid-90s that was designed to put people like me in jail for giving advice to grandma.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's right, Then your tax accountant has to go to jail.
Speaker 1:Exactly, then shouldn't we do the same thing for tax? I have this quote. I want to read it to you because I think this is great. This was from a Supreme Court justice and I really think this puts all of the things that we talk about in perspective, and you got to use, you know, you got to extrapolate, because this is regarding taxes, and so it's not. We're not always talking about taxes. Most of the time, we're not talking about taxes, we're talking about resources and getting access to resources, but it's the same concept. So this was Louis Brandeis Justice. Louis Brandeis, which was one of the preeminent Supreme Court justices. When we think about Supreme Court justices in history, there's probably maybe a dozen that we think of as just being preeminent, of standing out, the ones that really had an impact and Brandeis is one of them, and so this is a quote from Justice Brandeis.
Speaker 1:He says I live in Alexandria, virginia. Near where you live, probably Near the Supreme Court chambers there's a toll bridge across the Potomac River. When I'm in a rush, I pay the dollar toll. To get home early, however, I usually I usually drive outside of downtown section of the city and cross the Potomac on a free bridge of downtown section of the city and cross the Potomac on a free bridge. This bridge was placed outside of downtown Washington DC area to serve as a useful social service, getting drivers to drive the extra mile to help alleviate the congestion during the rush hour.
Speaker 1:If I went over the toll bridge through the barrier without paying the toll, I would be committing tax evasion. If, however, I drive the extra mile and drive outside the city of Washington to the free bridge, I'm using a legitimate, logical and suitable method of tax avoidance and I am performing a useful social service in doing so. For my tax evasion, I should be punished. For my tax avoidance, I should be commended. The tragedy of life today is so few people know that the free bridge even exists, and that's what we're talking about right, the free bridge.
Speaker 3:Great, I'm going to steal that. Yeah, yes, no, that's true. I mean I heard Trump I think I saw the quote again. He was, I think, in his argument with Hillary back and forth.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she said something about he avoids taxes. No, I'm just smart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that. And there's the comedian that kind of pointed that out. That was like, okay, even the first billionaire that told the truth. Right, I'm smart and so we kind of get why there's some popularity. There is because he's telling the truth. Sometimes, whether you like him or hate him, he's telling the truth. He's saying yeah, no one else tells you this.
Speaker 1:I'm taking advantage of it because I'm smart and that makes sense, all right, so tell me about your current. You've got let's go help dot com. I want to hear about that community because it sounds like a really great community.
Speaker 3:It came out by accident. Most things when I start businesses, I have one idea and they wind up something else, but you have to do something because you'll never think of the best idea before it happens. They sort of evolve and you have to get into doing it and we're not smart enough to know the future. People stop buying reference books Shit. What am I going to do? So it took me many years and then I knew the information was still good and if I wanted to sell to rich people, then that's easy. They can make money. They'll give you money. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to help the average person who didn't have that money. Didn't want to do that. And I wanted to help the average person who didn't have that money kind of money to do it. And so I said, well, I'll have some kind of subscription or whatever. But that seemed bad to me because I how many people can I really help at $20?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and make a list $20 a month and you get that to your resources and so but what's grown into it is that the people are helping people, not me.
Speaker 3:I'm just the train seal Telling people and it's people who just got in there, better at it, because they just started getting the money and they didn't know how to do it either. You know two weeks ago, and now they're getting to them, so to talk to them about how they did so they're available. We got about probably about anywhere three to five hours every day of people who are available on Zoom calls. You can talk to it, wow, how they got the money, uh, and and get one-on-one help like that. And then also, what surprises me, uh, is that we only charge $20 and people said I should charge thousands, even you know, and people.
Speaker 3:it would uh, and I said no, I want to help the people. If you have thousands of dollars to spend on that, you're not interesting to me to help, and so I wanted to have $20. But it's so profitable. We give 40% of our money back to people.
Speaker 1:Amazing.
Speaker 3:So every month we give like anywhere from $50,000 to $70,000 back to members and personal grants. That's great. And I just was reading how Facebook is giving grants to small businesses and they're giving out a hundred million dollars. Well, I was doing some math with their sales. Their sales is like 150 billion. Oh wow. A hundred million is like 0.0001 percent of the money that they're giving the people in need, and we're giving 40, so that made me feel nice well, giving any money. I never thought I'd be in a position to be able to do something like that. I thought you'd be jeff bezos or somebody right. A schmuck like me from looks for a pennsylvania and you know, could do something like that. It is so nice, um, and but more importantly, it's the giving part, and that's why I see why people are helping people, because they they realize how selfish it is to give and that's sort of believe, a lot too Interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what you're saying. I absolutely, completely believe in that the community part of it.
Speaker 1:So, I'm part of a number of groups, but one of them is a coaching group of lawyers, and there's the coaches, which are great. They're very smart coaches, great coaches. But everybody in the group recognizes that we're getting more from the community than we are from the coaches. So we get, you know, we have the leaders. They're great, they're smart, you know good resources, but the reality is it's the community, other people in the group that are really advancing our goals and helping us achieve, you know, some things beyond just business success. Like we all.
Speaker 1:You know, it's nice to have business success. You and I can both acknowledge that that that's nice, that we have business success. But once you get there, it's like, okay, what do we do with this? You've been at that point for quite a while to say, okay, how can I have an impact on society? How can I actually make things? Recently I heard speaking and answering some questions and he said I think it was George Clooney. Actually George Clooney. He said success teaches you nothing. It's the failures that teach you. And so when you get success, then what do you do with it? What do?
Speaker 3:you do.
Speaker 1:Too many people think that that's just the end all be all goal and it sounds like what you're saying is beyond that. We want to have an impact. What's great? We've had success. Fantastic, that's lovely. What do we do now? And that's having impact? Giving back, you know, having trying to move things forward having have trying to move things forward.
Speaker 3:No, I remember, you know, in beginning of my professional life, going to seminars and I mean, and they teach you about success and what to do with success, and I said, well, god, that's sort of like the easy part, you know, right, you get the money, you go to the bank. What do you got to know more. You know, yeah, you have to prepare for, not success, prepare for failure. Most, most things are going to fail, that's what you got to prepare for not success.
Speaker 3:Prepare for failure. Most things are going to fail. That's what you got to prepare for. But you prepare. I remember MBA sort of taught you how to run businesses perfect. Well, no business is ever perfect and you really have to train yourself to. You're going to open the door every morning and it's going to be all fucked up. That's what you have to train for, not just when everything's working. No, that's just lightning happening actually a success.
Speaker 1:Where it's not, there's not going to be those you know stumbling blocks, there's not going to be those failures along the road. That's part of it, and I think that's, frankly, one of the biggest lessons of of succeeding is realizing that you know that those stumbling blocks, those failures, are just part of the process.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's also. That's the only way you grow. You're not going to grow, and in success? Because you don't learn anything, yeah, uh, except how to hide money or something uh and so the failure is growth.
Speaker 3:I mean, the biggest setbacks I had were huge growth, growth stuff, uh, and important parts of life. They're the important parts of life and we're all organic, I feel, you know, like a tree or a flower or everything, we're here to grow, absolutely. Get the environment for yourself to grow so you can grow the most, and that's a retirement. That's not growing. So if you're not growing, what the hell are you doing here? Yeah, that's not growing.
Speaker 1:So if you're not growing, what the hell are you doing here? One of the things I want to compliment you on, because this is my goal for my life I work with a lot of older folks, and sometimes older folks get to the point where they just choose not to adapt anymore.
Speaker 1:They choose not to embrace new technology and things like that, and my goal for my life is to never resign to that. Never resign to oh, that's new, that's complicated. I'm not going to learn that. And I feel like that's exactly where you're at. Did you say you were 80 years old? 81, yeah, 81 years old. So I love the fact that you're 81 years old and that you realized that selling books wasn't going to get you where you need to go. And now you've developed this online community. That's exactly where I, you know I want to go. I want to have the folks that listen to me. You know, think about yes, don't just just because you're aging doesn't mean you have to. You know, follow that process to me. You know, think about is. Don't just just because you're aging doesn't mean you have to. You know, follow that process of saying, okay, well, that's for younger people. No.
Speaker 1:I can learn. That too. I can. I can learn the new technology I can adapt to, you know, realizing that people aren't probably going to buy a resource book anymore. You know things like that. So I really admire your path, that you've followed and, uh, and I recommend that and I hope I follow it myself.
Speaker 3:Right, oh, nice Now. But what I found, though, is that, if you have success, that becomes a handicap in growing. Right, because you found something. You worked your ass off and finding all of this work, and then the fucking world changes on you. Yeah, and that doesn't work. And you're trying to find out how to take the old stuff. I learned to fit it in the new stuff Right, and that wasted about five years of my life, yeah, but the fact that you kept trying is the point.
Speaker 3:Exactly. That's the only way and that's why I like younger people, because older people trying to do something, they're trying to take their success and fit it in. Younger people don't have success, so they're just looking at the opportunities and the holes that have to be filled. And that's why I like hanging around younger people more, because they're looking forward and not dragging success with them trying to make it fit in again.
Speaker 1:it's over and you know one of the things and it sounds like you and I are on the same page. It's about helping younger people develop too. It's you know I have folks that, um, you know, I realize that when I am developing younger people, they might go on and do bigger, better things outside of my organization, outside of my firm, and I'm happy with that.
Speaker 1:I want people to develop and I realize that when I'm, you know, helping them develop their professional grow up, that it might not benefit me in the long run, but I just feel like that's an appropriate thing to do and I'm proud of the fact that they go on to do great things. You know, once they leave the firm and things like that.
Speaker 3:No, definitely. I mean. I think that's what we we invest in ourselves, first to grow Right, and then we, after that's done, then we invest in the new people who are coming along.
Speaker 1:Well, I've monopolized a lot of this because I'm really interested in you and I, like I said, I'm a fan. So I've monopolized a lot of this, just kind of talking about my interest. I really want to kind of focus on can you give some tips to our listeners of how they might access some of the resources that you provide? So give us some of your best tips.
Speaker 3:Well, anything's going to take work, and that's what, to me, marketing is is all about making you believe it's easy to do anything, because you give them money. Whether you give some money or someone money or not, it's still going to take work.
Speaker 3:You may get lucky as hell, but not, and so that's still going to take work. You may get lucky as hell, but not, and so that's what, to me, all the marketing in our country, and that's what we're very good at marketing, and so I think, unless you have a lot of money, just stay away from Google. You're not going to get it's just.
Speaker 3:People are so good at marketing nowadays because you could try 50 different combinations within a second to see what makes somebody open their wallet. You know, for the days when I first started, direct mail is how we marketed.
Speaker 3:It took five months to see if anything works. Now it takes a nanosecond and you get five items to see what works and that doesn't work, so they can get your money so easily. So you, number one, stay away from that. Number two, talk to people who know. Those 500 websites that you just got on Google were 500 billion. The three you should know, and the only way you're going to know that is by talking to somebody who knows that stuff, and that's important. So, and anybody you talk to make sure there's a gov or org Interesting, because coms that want money from you I mean, I'm sure they're good ones. If you don't have money, you just can't even play that game.
Speaker 3:And there's too many people that don't have money to get in that game and they're trying to get out of trouble playing the game of coms. And you can't, you've got to play the other game, which is 40 percent, so that's a lot of playground to play it. So that's what you have to do. You have to call people who are in business to help people like you. Ok, because they study it every day. So if you want to start a business every day, so if you want to start a business, then you would go to this website called americasbdcorg. These are free consultants in every county that will help you start or expand any business at any age, at any income, whether you want to start a business or you want to start an inventor, or you want to start a nonprofit, or you want to invest in real estate, anything. Give you all the free legal help, marketing help, help you find money, anything you need to start something. And there's dozens like that, not only this group in every county to tell them that's who you want to find, that's who you want to talk to, and that findhelporg if it's any daily expense you have.
Speaker 3:You can't pay your rent, you can't pay your, you know you got to fix up your house, you got to get more job training, you got to even get legal help or whatever. That's all free in there. And, as Bob said, he's got two 3,000 organizations in his zip code that give you that for all free. Now when you call that say you want rent, well, with him you can have 50 to 70 organizations in any city in America that helps you with rent for free, helps you pay rent. Okay, now how do you use them? And that's your fish in the barrel. If you put rent grants in Google, you'll get literally 500 million. So it's not even worth trying.
Speaker 3:So you got 70 people. You know they're all nonprofit organizations. They're all there to help you solve a rent problem. Now, they're all not going to be able to solve your rent problem because they're all usually for separate groups or whatever. So you have to fish through that, finding the right lawyer, right, oh, I got a lawyer here, but yeah, but he doesn't do stuff for seniors, so he's not costing a lot of money to go up the learning curve, right? But more importantly, if you take those 70 organizations and start calling them, hey, I have trouble with rent and you don't have to know what to say, can you help me? And they'll say yes, no or maybe. So if they say no, then you ask them can you suggest somebody else that could help me? So if you find Bob with a, you know, and he's a lawyer and maybe you don't need a lawyer that helps with seniors but you need a tax lawyer, well, he probably knows because he's in the business. You know helping people. So that's what all these people in the business are helping people pay rent.
Speaker 3:No, other people who do that. They go to the meetings and find other people and they know what's going to. They people who do that. They go to the meetings and find other people and they know what's going to. They know what will be in the internet next week or next year because you know they're ahead of the curve like that. That's their tool and if you have to learn how to use that, then you learn how to get through the internet without knowing anything, and it's skills we all need. We all know how to do. We all know how to make a phone call. We did that before the internet, and so that's how you really find something.
Speaker 3:And the other thing it's just because it's difficult. You know you want to solve problems that are important to you. I mean, solve them easy. If they're easy, fine, but you'll probably give up because it's not as easy as you think. But the help is out there. We live in a country that has, you know, 40% of our country is here to help you. So we have a giving economy that you pay for, we all pay for, and nobody knows who to use. But the fat cats know it and you know we have Elon Musk. You know is hooked to the hip of Trump because he's already got $5 billion in government money. And he wants more.
Speaker 3:That's why he gave Trump $150 million for his campaign because he wants more.
Speaker 3:And that's all. These high-tech billionaires now are all down in Mar-a-Lago now how are they going to get more money from the government? The average person on the street thinks there's something bad about that which is stupid. But if that's a philosophical question you have to follow your heart. But just to realize it is there, you have a problem to solve. You live in this country, Don't have to be certain income. I mean, everybody says, oh, I make too much money. Yes, for a few programs.
Speaker 3:But, 80% of the programs available have no income requirement at all. Right.
Speaker 1:That's an excellent point, matthew. That's one of the things I hear all the time, and even when I'm trying to help somebody and I'm looking at their actual information, so I'm face to face with somebody often people will say, well, I hear what you're saying, but there's no way I can qualify for that because I make too much income. So it is one of those things that you there's so many ways. I really liked what you said there about how you know people that are willing to keep asking the right questions to the right people, right. Just to summarize what you were just saying there, it's asking the right questions to the right phone number, right. And that's the key is when you Google it. This is why you're saying avoid Google. When you Google it, there's going to be 90% of the responses from Google. Is somebody trying to sell you something of whatever it is that they have to sell? It's not necessarily going to solve your problem, it's just this is what I have to sell, so I'm going to try to sell it to you. Nothing wrong with that, but it's really hard to sort through that and get to the people that say, okay, this is actually the resource that I need and I may not know how to ask the right question. I train my staff this way.
Speaker 1:All the time I say look, most people that are going to be calling us aren't going to be asking the right question. They may be asking for a power of attorney, they may be asking for a guardianship. If you're asking for those things, there's some problem, there's some background problem. You don't call and just randomly ask for a guardianship or a power of attorney unless there's some bigger problem that's occurring, and then you know. So we got to address the real issue, not just the question that they're asking, and I think that's what your point is. If you call the right people, they'll know that. They'll know that you're not you don't know exactly what question to ask and that with the right people, even if they're not the resource, they'll point you to the right resource for money or whatever you think you need, to just say I need help, right?
Speaker 3:So if you're in the right you know area, uh, then they'll. They know the questions I ask you to find out what kind of help you really need, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, Right. Well, Matthew, this has been great. Uh, this is really exciting to talk to you. I think, um, I love how the, the, the, the trajectory of your life has gone and that you, you know, I've always felt like you were one of the trustworthy guys, because there was guys out there that weren't trustworthy back 20 years ago. All that, and to see the trajectory of your life, and now you're all about making sure people have access to information at a very low price. Let's Go Help that. $20 a month is nominal to get access to all these resources in the community that you've created, which is amazing.
Speaker 3:Well, thanks, Bobby. I love your kind words, man. I pretend I don't hear them. Maybe the nuns taught me to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 3:But they're etched in my heart, believe me.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you coming on the podcast. I think that people uh people that are listening will get a lot of value from this. I do recommend that you check out lesscohelpcom. Thank you, matthew, for being part of our community, and hopefully we'll send a few people your way.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. Thanks for listening. To learn more, visit manorlawgroupcom.
